Nexteritis – Opposition to FcNext

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FcNext, The Lost Generation of Freecycling

Nothing exciting here (although some Nexters sure seem excited about us … too bad we don’t get paid for writing our stuff … that would be too “Freesharing-like”).  Just some typical nexterisms and yahooisms to talk about  …

1. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fcnext/message/24702
Nexter No_blip can’t tell the difference between copyright fair use and the TOS violation involved in swiping a post from a group’s private, restricted archive for publication in a public archive.  That’s okay.  Yahoo! knows the difference, and executed their Notice of Infringement and FcNext post deletions accordingly.

We look forward to the Nexteritis blog being quoted, legally and responsibly in a fair use context, with proper attribution (just a valid hyperlink to the source will do … just to keep things simple enough for Nexters).

We also appreciate the publicity we’re getting through their posting a link to us, beginning with thanks to Andy for that, since FcNext censorship wouldn’t allow us to post our views in their so-called “unmoderated” group under their limited (and twisted) notion of “free speech,” complicated by their inability to cope with dissent from people willing to put serious effort into it.  But they ARE mostly students of TFN, where they learned some things about how to run discussion groups and deal with controversy, though apparently little or nothing about moderating a discussion.

2. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fcnext/message/24703
Paul Hurteau (proudly hailing from Auburn, MA) thinks it’s wrong for anti-Nexters to publish their writing under a nom de plume, but doesn’t accuse comrade “no_blip” of any such thing.  Honor among blips and all that.  Apparently he also subscribes to that school of thought saying, “If I say it, it must be true.”  And conversely, “If I say it ain’t true, it can’t be true.”  Most folks of that type also tend to think that if they say it often enough and loud enough, that makes it true.  George W. Bush got most Americans and Congress to buy into an illegal and immoral war that way, so I guess if it’s good enough for him, it might work among Nexters.  George is also famous for a line in a speech to the United Nations:  “You are either with us, or you are with the terrorists.”  That kind of polarized thinking works for Nexters, too.  No gray areas, no middle ground, no alternatives.  You either swallow their propaganda hook, line and sinker, or you are evil.  Drink the kool-aid and go to Nexter Heaven.  For each TFN group you kill, you get seventeen virgins in the afterlife.

3. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fcnext/message/24704
Nexter moderator (only in word, not deed or skill) Judy is still harping on the silly notion of reporting something about Nexteritis to Yahoo!, presumably because she can’t decipher the TOS, or maybe she just thinks it’s fun to tell people to file unjustified and unsustainable complaints (or false ones).  I guess it does sting a little to know so many posts have been deleted from FcNext for TOS violations, and to dread the likelihood of it happening again.

4. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fcnext/message/24705
“Kettle” No_blip, being the expert statistician, believes that a 14% random sample is insufficient to come to any reasonable conclusions in a survey of the type done on Freesharing.  Of course, the method of randomization was published, and anyone can verify that the report did contain a random sample, but no Nexter would do that much work about anything so intensive, even things they get so excited about.  It’s easier to just rant than do any serious investigation of facts.

Still, it is understandable that some folks of limited faculties might suspect that 14% isn’t a big enough random sample.  Some day we’ll double it by adding another 14% of the list to the survey.

Actually, we’ve already done that.  Some time ago, we surveyed about 300 of the entries in the Freesharing directory (more than a third of the directory size at the time), just starting at the top of the list and moving down through it.  The results were worse for Burke’s image.  But that’s outdated now, and it did not provide a proportionate cross-section of the entire country.

Following Andy’s psychology, criticizing Freesharing should be a positive thing, because criticism can help show the way to improvement.  He might be onto something there, but it takes someone capable of receiving and acting on constructive criticism in an honorable way.  We’re not expecting Burke to suddenly start applying anything like quality controls to his directory.  It would cut his link count in half, and maybe reduce his Google hit rating, and affect his income.  Money talks.

5.  King James English-speaking Statistician Kettle No-blip also writes about Nexteritis with a biblical twist, this matter being of religious-scale consequence to them.  Not surprising from a cult to invoke religious overtones on things.

6. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fcnext/message/24707
Typical of Nexters, Hurteau reads words that are not there, referring to someone else having written the word “most” when they did not.  (The phrase he apparently refers to is, “the other 90% either ignoring it or long gone bouncing.”)  But it would be interesting to know how many FcNext member accounts are bouncing, if one could get an honest answer to such a question.  We hope it’s not many, because we do like our blog link being published to as many Nexters as possible.

Curious that serious dissidents and opponents to core Nexter attitudes and behaviors are not allowed to post in FcNext, but FcNext postings still give so much attention to the writings of those same dissidents and opponents, notwithstanding those vocal unmoderated Nexters’ lack of substance and cogency, as usual.

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From:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nexteritis/message/6

— In nexteritis@yahoogroups.com, nexteritis <no_reply@…> wrote:

Posted by permission from:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dkchat/message/10

— In dkchat@yahoogroups.com, nexteritis <no_reply@> wrote:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fcnext/message/24668

Judy thinks there’s something to report to Yahoo, but forgets the
snot standing in front of her mirror needs wiping.

Of course they will reject this post I just made in reply to her
idiocy …

— In fcnext@yahoogroups.com, Shadow Grafix <ruzich2@> wrote:
>
> You might try responding to him at Meg’s address as I’m pretty sure
> he’d get the message.

WHAT KIND OF CRAP IS THAT?

No, you’re not using me to harass someone else.  You won’t allow him
to post in his own defense when others lie about him, and falsely
accuse him.  You won’t allow others to post in his defense, either. 
Your OIDG censorship tactics are not going unnoticed, and are being
publicized worldwide.  Y’all learned well from your former TFN
masters.

Your favorite insiders are allowed to say whatever they want about
someone you’ve declared an enemy, but he’s not allowed to answer?

You’ve become worse than the things you hate in TFN.

Meg

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Posted here with permission of the author from:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dkchat/message/8
(some personal information redacted)
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— In dkchat@yahoogroups.com, dk.chat2 <no_reply@> wrote:

Response to Jamey (YID tresrottn) post in FcNext at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fcnext/message/24662

FcNext Moderators: Jamey’s post is harassment.  Do the right thing
about that, or Yahoo will, just as they did with Burke’s harassment
posts here, and the YGG11 infringement ones.

cc: Off-list to Jamey, since FcNext mods are using OIDG censorship
tactics on people who dissent to the practices of Nexters, though I
think it would be the ethical thing for them to allow me to rebut the
erroneous and silly “information” in Jamey’s post.

Jamey,

Who told you I was “near death?”  That was a silly story made up by
Nexters who didn’t know what they were talking about.

But there have been times in the past when I was almost killed, and
recovered very quickly with proper medical attention.  Sometimes all
it takes is some oxygen or a single injection to keep a person from
dying (ask someone who has had a serious allergic reaction).  But I
don’t expect everyone to understand medical realities.

I’ve had three major surgeries in my life, and was up and walking
around the next day after all three and back at work within a week
each time, which always involved a lot more effort than operating a
home computer.  For two of those surgeries, I was back at work within
48 hours.

Do you have any idea of the average length of a hospital stay in the
U.S.?

Modern medical reality seems to have escaped you.

Anybody can legally privately forward a private email to others and
there’s nothing the original sender can do about it.  Posting it to a
public message board is another matter, as is stealing and reposting
a message from a restricted message archive (according to Yahoo).

There are no direct add members in my personal chat group.  Yahoo can
verify that for you when you file your false report of it.  No member
gets into my group automatically or by direct add.  In fact, they
don’t get in unless they sign an agreement with me, or I invite
them.  Just click join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dkchat and
you can get a copy of the agreement for your edification.  There are
no members in that group who did not ask to be there and applied to
join by the normal Yahoo join procedure, plus the extra step of
signing the membership agreement.  Ask the FcNext members who have
already joined or applied to join (but you’ll have to ask them to
tell you who they are).

But your posting of a private, off-list email message to a public
message archive is certainly unethical.  No surprise from you there.

In addition to facts you’re ignorant of, and making up as you go,
legal and ethical reality seem to have escaped you.

So go ahead and report me to Yahoo every minute of every day for a
hundred years.  There’s nothing they can or will do about it, because
what you’re whining about is not happening, and never was.

But facts and truth never meant much to people like you.  It’s more
fun to make up nonsense, i.e., The Nextercult Way.

Oh, and even better than my IP address, which is on a node of
XXXXXXXXXX out of XXXXXXXXXXX:  just do a people search on
XXXXXXXXXX in XXXXXXXXXX, and you can get much more than an IP
address.  Easily get my home postal address and phone number.  (But
don’t abuse it if you know anything about the law.)  For a few bucks
you can get the names of my family members and all my past home
addresses, too.  So what?  Anybody could have done that kind of
search on me ten thousand times by now.

But try to spell the name right in your search, or you might harass
the wrong person.  Something else Nexters have a hard time doing …
spelling a simple six-letter common name.

My ISP isn’t going to entertain your whining without proof of
wrongdoing, which you can’t provide because there has not been any.
So waste your time filing complaints about things that did not
happen, and they’ll be happy to ignore you.

And consider this: filing false reports and threatening to do so is
harassment.  At least I think so, and Yahoo does, too, as I have seen
them prove.

XXXXXXXXXX

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