FcNext Andykaboodleboy
In his publicly posted message at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fcnext/message/24674
Grouply Evangelist Andy Swarbrick wrote:
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Dkchat is an age limited group, in that member have to
assent to being “adult”. Surely there is a paradox
here, but I can’t quite put my finger on it.
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That was so that so-called adults already irrefutably proved unable or unwilling to keep a civil tongue in their head could speak their small minds freely, and so that others could respond to them in language such nitwits could understand. That refers to people like the trash-talking three-time proven TOS violator (and profiteering, politicizing owner of “freesharing”) Eric Burke.
But foul-mouthed nitwits would never join a group like dkchat. They can only be comfortable in a group like FcNext that supports that kind of idiocy and censors anyone who opposes it in a cogent, civil, respectable manner, out of Nextercult fear that even just one sensible person speaking out against the behaviors of a couple dozen nitwit cultists has a big effect on their ability to get away with their offensive behavior. Not surprising that many of the same people were kicked out of TFN or had to leave because they could not behave respectably, and did not know how to practice dissent and opposition in an effective way.
This is not to say that TFN is innocent of a variety of offensive behaviors, but except for the Finder fiasco, in which anti-FcNext people also participated against TFN, FcNext has not succeeded in stopping TFN’s hegemony, and cannot, because they have nothing in their toolbox capable of doing that. Now Nexters are learning that Yahoo has sort of “adopted” TFN as a partner, prolifically promoting their affiliated groups. FcNext won’t be able to stop that, either, or generate positive publicity for any of the alternatives, except maybe RIN and RealCycle, the only realistically effective positive alternatives to TFN, though it’s a far stretch to think Yahoo will ever give them the credence they give TFN.
But Burke and his cult friends don’t get away with their cult garbage completely in FcNext any more, either. Now for the third time he’s been “TOS’d,” in the deletion of FcNext message #24528.
That’s three TOS violation reports sustained by Yahoo against half a dozen or so Nexters within the past couple weeks, all three times including Burke. You’d think that the moderators would catch on and start actually moderating the group’s content, before they lose their group.
But you’re right to some extent, there is a something like a paradox, in that dkchat, part of the anti-Nexter movement, is a group set to “adult” rating only because Nexters who might join it to see what is going on there can’t be trusted to behave like true adults, which is the reason that FcNext message 24528 was just deleted on the basis of a TOS violation report, and there are more such actions coming. That latest TOS violation report was not filed by DK. There are others (Yahoo among them) who have decided it’s time to hold FcNext and its common cult members accountable. The more often FcNext opponents succeed, the more people will join the effort, since FcNext does more to harm the future of freecycling than any other force on earth, and is a chronic violator of the Yahoo TOS (not a good way to win Yahoo’s support for alternatives to TFN, but Nexters never were smart that way).
The difference between the seemingly “paradoxical” FcNext opponents and the core Nextercultists is that we oppose FcNext using the Yahoo TOS and rational arguments against FcNext, while, as is typical of cultism, the Nextercult toolbox contains only trash-talking, personal attacks, incoherent ranting, whining, disinformation, dissembling, censorship, and removing FcNext members who make real progress against the cultic insanity of their vocal minority. (The vast majority of freecycling group moderators will have nothing to do with FcNext, and relatively few members of the FcNext group participate in its sick behaviors … only the routinely most active posting members, children in mind really, less than 10% of the group, the other 90% either ignoring it or long gone bouncing.) True adults not brainwashed by the cult see the difference, which is being revealed globally day by day on the web.
We oppose FcNext because it is a group serving to harm the freecycling movement. In all their bragging about “free speech,” of course the cultists won’t allow the voice of opposition in their group, just like OIDG, with the difference being that OIDG is owned by a corporate entity that has a legal duty to protect its proprietary interests. FcNext has a no sense of duty to anything but cultic hatred and contempt for things they can’t cope with rationally, or respond to effectively.
FcNext faces opposition of the sort they never represented or posed to TFN, and for very different reasons.
Nextercult Opposition Team
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